Sometimes everything lines up just so, and you get a perfect episode of Someone Else’s Movie.

I will explain: This week’s guest is Albert Shin, the gifted Toronto director (In Her Place) and producer (The Stone Speakers); I’ve been hoping to get him on the show for a while, and his new movie Disappearance at Clifton Hill opens this Friday, so that was handy.

And he wanted to talk about Memories of Murder, the eccentric 2003 South Korean thriller that preceded David Fincher’s Zodiac by four years and introduced Bong Joon-ho to the larger world … and which, in the year of Parasite, leads us to a larger conversation about Bong’s oeuvre, his approach to genre and his ongoing relationship with Song Kang-ho, which started on this film.

It’s a fun, wide-ranging conversation that you can enjoy even if you’ve never seen Bong’s movie. So enjoy it! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play and Stitcher to get it instantly, or download the episode directly from the web. And if you’re curious about the real-life case that inspired the film, this is a good place to start.