I’ve been hoping to book Michael Dowse for an episode of Someone Else’s Movie ever since I launched the podcast, and it finally came together on the press day for his new Viceland series, FUBAR: Age of Computer

I am very happy about this, particularly since he picked a great movie to talk about: Heaven’s Gate, Michael Cimino’s initially reviled, ultimately celebrated epic Western. Thirty-seven years after its disastrous, studio-killing release, we have enough distance to talk about it as a piece of cinema rather than a pop-culture punchline.

It’s a good conversation. Wanna hear it? Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Google Play or Stitcher or download the episode directly from the web. That’s all I’ve ever asked of you.