This week on Someone Else’s Movie, documentary filmmaker Jamie Kastner — whose latest film The Skyjacker’s Tale opens at the Hot Docs Cinema this Friday — digs into the madcap comedy of Mel Brooks’ directorial debut The Producers.

Every now and then you get a pairing of guest and movie that catalyzes the show in a really special way. This is one of those pairings, and I’m really glad it arrives right on the heels of Matt Watts’ look at The Heartbreak Kid — the two films share a certain underlying self-awareness and specificity, and it was really interesting to see the connections emerge over the course of the conversation.

You can get it at all the usual places — iTunes, Google Play and Stitcher, or straight from the site. Please do that, and enjoy yourself. Or just watch The Producers again; really, the movie speaks for itself most eloquently.