Milestones are meaningless, I know, but it’s really weird to me that I’m releasing the 200th episode of Someone Else’s Movie today; it’s hard to believe I’ve been doing this odd little podcast for three and a half years, and it’s piled up so much audio.

But I have, and it has, and here we are. And this episode is pretty special; actor and writer Naomi Snieckus (who has a pretty great podcast of her own) wanted to talk about Judd Apatow’s The Zen Diaries of Garry Shandling — a terrific documentary about a man who spent his entire life trying to know himself, and one that opens doors to all sorts of interesting personal examinations.

I didn’t set out to make this a Very Special Episode, but that’s how it turned out, and I’m pretty happy about that. So go listen to it! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play and Stitcher, stream it on Spotify or download the episode directly from the web. You’ll learn some stuff. It’s okay.