This week on Someone Else’s Movie, I welcome Eric Johnson — the magnificent bastard of Steven Soderbergh’s The Knick and James Foley’s Fifty Shades sequels — to the studio, almost a year after talking him out of liking Life Is Beautiful on that episode of Black Hole Films. Hey, he’s been busy.

But it was worth the wait, because Eric picked one of the best films of this new century, Alfonso Cuaron’s Children of Men. And it made for a great episode, with the conversation touching on dystopian storytelling, Cuaron’s tactile style, the understated genius of Clive Owen and the metaphors that have only grown more relevant since the film’s release.

I really don’t know what else to tell you. Just listen. You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Google Play or Stitcher, or download the episode directly from the web.

I’m really happy with this one. Please enjoy it.